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Re: Dog-lead vs. free-dog

by <DelusionalDimensionsRecoveryDDR@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 4, 2008 at 08:45 PM

HOWEDY the.longest.username.available aka
nick, you pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin
animal murderin punk thug coward active acute
chronic life-long incurable malignant maliciHOWES
mental case,

<the.longest.username.available@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:5db38f39-8997-4b8a-808f-af4aae49d3cb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Jun 4, 4:44 pm, Janet Boss <ja...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> In article
> <bf5b5a39-aa41-48ea-b936-1dcc86a79...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> "the.longest.username.availa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"
>
> <the.longest.username.availa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > I would add that ensuring proper quality of life is part of the
> > commitment made when choosing to keep said dog. If you can't
> > meet all of the requirements, then put the dog to sleep, but with
> > my lifestyle I find I am able and I wouldn't choose otherwise.
>
> Which is your choice and lucky you. Multiple pet homes have a lot to
> consider when there is an aggressive animal. Quality of life extends to
> the human ****tion as well.
>
> Your initial post seemed very critical. No matter how the decision is
> made, I can't believe it is ever "easy". It isn't something that goes
> away either, as you implied. If you don't think that people don't live
> with the loss of a pet, for a very long time, especially under such
> stressful cir***stances, you don't give people much credit.
>
> --
> Janet Bosswww.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

I had to have a dog put to sleep for human aggression (CBR).  I am
aware it never truly goes away, but I find the distress it causes me
now many years later to be less then the distress I endure when out on
a walk with my reactive dog aggressive dog and some idiot's off leash
dog comes running over because "he's friendly"(a different issue) and
I have to worry if that dog is going to be one that triggers a
reaction from Yoda and it manages to get past me and Yoda severely
injures or kills the other dog.  Now, Yoda has significantly mellowed
since his "youth", but that doesn't mean I don't stress when a
situation like that happens.  And five to ten years from now, that
stress will still be at the same level, because if I don't remember
that the potential is still there, I could be putting someone else's
dog at risk.

Nick

From: 
Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborat...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 6 Jan 2007 14:02:52 -0800

Subject: Re: it makes me so sad.

HOWEDY nick you pathetic miserable stinkin animal abusin mental case,


<the.longest.username.availa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:1168104072.319883.219400@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I'm not sure I described the collar clearly.


Well, we DON'T NEED your EXXXPLANATION of
HOWE your pronged spiked pinch choke collar is LIMITED
CHOKE and DON'T CHOKE, it PINCHES the dog's throat
like a mommy dog's TEETH when she's grabbin IT by the
throat and throwin IT to the GRHOWEND to teach it RESPECT.


> When he has the prong/pinch collar on, people seem
> to be less afraid of him then when he has a simple little
> nylon slip collar and is better behaved.


They're AFRAID to go past you with no reassurance
that you can CON-TROLL your dog if he tries to attack
them as they hurry past you till they get HOWETA range.


> My use of the spike collar term was simply because
> that is what the average person thinks a prong collar does...
> stab spikes into the dog when it doesn't behave.


Naaaaah. ONLY A MENTAL CASE would do sumpthin
LIKE THAT to their fearful hyperactive dogs, nicky.


> Nick
>From Dog Owner's Guide:


"Turmoil surrounds another training device that is
gaining in popularity and is described as both cruel
and humane. Known as the prong or pinch collar, this
interlocking steel link collar looks like a medieval torture
 device, but it is actually a gentle tool for training many
dogs with little or no tugging, jerking, or pulling.

However, it is not suitable for all dogs, and herein lies the problem."


If a trainin method or DEVICE "AIN'T SUITABLE FOR ALL DOGS",


                 THAT'S THE PROBLEM, fellow dog lovers.

Here's HOWE COME nick had to MURDER his own DEAD DOG:

From: "the.longest.username.availa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" 
<the.longest.username.availa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

Date: 4 Aug 2006 08:28:05 -0700

Subject: Re: My dog breaks out of his cage at night

bgamb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> Hi there

> I have two King Charles Spaniels. Donna and Dior. Donna has just
> turned one year old and is quit a hand full. She is almost impossible
> to train.
>
> Resently she started peeing in her cage at night again. She
> used to share her cage with Dior who is 18 months old. He used
> to wake us up whenever she urinated in their shared cage. After
> she urinates in her cage (which is a collapsable type made out of
> some sort of cloth) To stop her from upsetting the older dog at
> night we bought another cage to split them up. Everyone has
> been giving advice but to no avail. I have not had a good night
> sleep for months now. Donna has a mind of her own and is
> extremely hyper.
>
> As a general rule she does not respond well to any kind of punishment.
>
> She just keeps on wagging her tail when you punish her.
>
> We try and get her to urinate before she gets put in her cage at night.
> But she doesn't seem to get what she needs to do. And I give up after
> staying outside with her after about half an hour. About an hour after
> she has been put in her cage she inevidently urinates in her cage and
> starts whining. I end up getting up and change her blanket and let her
> out again. When I open her cage instead of wanting to go outside she
> heads for the other dogs cage and just wants to play. I then just pick
> her up and put her outside for a little bit then back in her cage.
> After an hour or so she violently starts scratching at her new hard
> plastic cage. And I end up not sleeping very much. She does not stop
> scratching at her cage at all and keeps at it all night long. I have
> tried to ignore her for the past couple of weeks but she doesn't give
> up. She seems to be winning this battle.


> I REALLY NEED HELP



For a tem****ary solution, I would use walking to get the dog to go to
the bathroom every night before putting her in the cage.  But I don't
think walking the dog for an extended period of time before each night
is a plausible solution to the problem, because you won't always have
the time for a long walk before bedtime.  My first concern is that you
say she is almost impossible to train, and that she doesn't respond to
punishment.  What kinds of training have you tried?  What kinds of
punishment?  Certain kinds of training, and certain kinds of punishment
work differently for different dogs.  I personally use a mix of praise
for proper behavior and corrections for inappropriate behavior.  I
believe that solely praise will get you a dog which will do it when it
wants to, and solely corrections will get you a dog which will do it
every time, but not because they want to.  With a mix, I try and get a
dog that does it every time because they want to please you.

I would work hard on obedience training, that way when the dog does pee
in the cage again, you can correct it with a correction you know works.
 The dog could be too hard for the corrections you are giving it, which
is why it just wags it's tail at you.  In which case you need to adjust
the level of correction until you get a response from the dog.  If the
correction doesn't change the behavior than most likely it isn't a
strong enough correction.  If you are going to use correction for
training, it is im****tant to use strong enough corrections.  It is a
lot better to have to give one strong correction than to repeatedly
give weak corrections that don't fix the problem.

                ------------------------


From: 
"TheSincerelyIncrediblyFreakinInsanelySimplyAmazingGrandPuppyChild*****BirdyGoatFerettAndHorseyWizard"

<Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborat...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:01:55 -0400

Subject: Re: Recommendations for Dog Deterrent

HOWEDY the.longest.username.available aka
nick, you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal
abusing punk thug coward active accute chronic
life long incurable mental case,


<the.longest.username.availa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:1184346138.653954.243090@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> My wife, my dog and I were out
> on our four mile walk last night,



Are you walkin four miles for pleasure and fitness,
or are you walkin four miles as the dog wheeesperer
recommends, to CON-TROLL you dog's hyperactive
HOWETA CON-TROLL behaviors?


> and we were charged by a GSD that was running
> free on about a 5 acre yard.  Luckily he had a remote
> trainer on and he yipped when he was about 2 feet
> from the property line as the owner ran out the garage
> door, and quickly returned to the owner.


BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA!!


> This could have been a serious situation though,


"LUCKILY" the dog was shocked and his abuser
was handy to reinforce CON-TROLL, otherWIZE
your dog woulda ended up bein dogmeat, eh, you
pathetic miserable stinkin dog abusin punk coward?


> so it has got me worried.


THAT'S the NATURAL STATE for a
 natural born COWARD, ain't it, nicky?


>  We used to carry a can of mace that my wife had,


<snip>


> Anyways,


You mean 'anyHOWE', you pathetic piece of crap.


> given that Yoda is very reactive to large dogs


You mean your dog is AFRAID when he's HOWET
in pubic with you on accHOWENTA you jerk an
choke and INTIMIDATE him in front of other dogs.

ALL FEAR is CAUSED BY MISHANDLING <{}: ~ ( >



> charging at him


Dogs CHARGE at fearful abused dogs on
accHOWENTA they FEAR them bein
HOWETA CON-TROLL of their ABUSER.


> I was quite happy that he continued
> healing while ignoring the other dog.


Well then, there was NUTHIN to worry abHOWET.
Off leash dogs DO NOT ATTACK well trained dogs
in apupriate CON-TROLL of their owners UNLESS
that "CON-TROLL" comes from jerkin an chokin an
shockin them <{}: ~ ( >


> But, had the GSD gotten to us and attacked Yoda,


The GSD wouldn't ATTACK unless your fear aggressive
HOWETA CON-TROLL dog provoked him to BE AFRAID
of Yoda gettin HOWETA YOUR CON-TROLL.


> I would expect he would no longer ignore
> him and a fight would break out.


ONLY if you jerked and choked Yoda
to keep him "HEALING" <{}: ~ ( >


> This is the second time this has happened to me
> (last time it was my next door neighbors APBT),
> so I guess it is shame on me for not preparing
> myself better after the first.


BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA!!

Your dog is a VICTIM on accHOWENTA YOU.


If you was to let your dog HOWET alone he'd
travel the neighborhood with NO PROBLEM
and would MAKE FRIENDS with the dogs
who "ATTACK" him while you are present.



> (Fool me once, shame on you,
> fool me twice, shame on me)


BWEEEAAAAHAAAHAAA!!

You and your pathetic miserable stinkin lyin
animal murderin punk thug coward pals ARE
the CAUSE of ALL your FOOLISH problems.



> I know that there are capsaicin based sprays
> and citronella sprays for use as dog deterrents.


You don't need a DOG deterrent. You need
 a DOG ABUSER deterrent <{}: ~ (  >


> I am looking for any recommendations on brands
> or the effectiveness of one versus the other.


You've got some EXXXCELLENT advice
 from your fellHOWE dog lovers <{}: ~ ) >


> I was sufficiently armed to kill
> the GSD if it came to that,


You could just BREAK IT'S SPINE, dog lover.

                LIKE THIS:


Subject:   Muttley: Now a question of Life or Death


90 From:  Sionnach
Date:  Mon, Oct 9 2006 1:19 am
Email:   "Sionnach" <rhyfe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>


 *I* was thanking the Deity that the NCR trail
 was not my choice of hiking area today!!!!


 Sorry, Paul, but the gloves are now off, because if I HAD
chosen the NCR trail today - rather than another local trail-
you would have been putting ***MY*** beloved dogs at
risk of serious injury or death. ***MY*** DOGS.


What the ****ING HELL is **WRONG** with you???


Your dog, which you have repeatedly admitted you can't
control, just made a near-lethal unprovoked attack on another
dog in obedience class, and you TOOK HIM OUT ON THE
TRAILS WHERE THERE ARE OTHER DOGS?????

You do that again, when my dogs are around, and he attacks
one of them, you won't have to worry about having him put
down - I will either break his spine or choke him to death
right then and there.

I'm dead ****ing serious, Mr. Schoen.


           ---------------------- 

                  OR

You could just STAB IT with a knife.

          LIKE THIS:

Paul E. Schoen on Sun Sep 02, 2007 wrote:
"I have a very vivid and terrible memory of the time when
my dog was viciously attacked by a larger dog in the woods
near our house. The girl who owned the dog was beating it
with a stick, and I stabbed it in the neck. Both dogs survived,
but after that, I always carried a stout stick with me when
walking our dog. This was back in the 60s, when leash laws
were very lax or non-existent, and before everybody was lawsuit
crazy, and when the few drug dealers and thugs in the few bad
areas of town were deathly afraid of all big dogs."

                    SEE?


> but for liability reasons I would like a deterrent.


You mean instead of just learnin HOWE to pupperly
handle and train your dog so's YOU don't present IT
as a VICTIM to the neighborhood dogs?

You AIN'T NEVER heard of a CHILD bein attacked
by other children at the park while walkin through with
his DADDY.


HOWE COME then, do you stinkin lyin animal
abusin punk thug cowards CONSISTENTLY get
ATTACKED while jerking and choking your own
dogs to keep them IN CON-TROLL?



> And because I love dogs,


But of curse! THAT'S HOWE COME you jerk
choke shock bribe crate intimidate and surgically
***ually mutilate them.


> and do not really want to have to kill one,


AlthHOWE it wouldn't REALLY bother you at all.


>  although I will to protect my family and my dog,


Of curse! Even your neighborhood dogs can spot
you comin a mile away, you pathetic coward.


> I would like to ensure it is as effective
> of a deterrent as possible.


You mean you want an AVERSIVE that'll CON-
TROLL other dogs from attacking your dog while
you're jerking and choking your own fear aggressive
 dog, rather than just learnin HOWE to walk DHOWEN
the street UNAFRAID of any other critter, including
and ESPECIALLY, yourself?


>Thanks.


THANK YOU, nicky. The Incredibly Simply Amazing
Puppy Wizard COULDN'T IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE
and DISCREDIT you, withHOWET your heelp <{}: ~ ) >


> Nick


Here's THREE CASE HISTORIES of fear aggressive
dog aggressive dogs CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY
simply by DOIN EVERY THING EXXXACTLY
PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE you and your
miserable pathetic stinkin lyin animal murderin punk
thug coward mental case pals PREFER:


Nevyn writes:


Jerry I cannot even begin to tell you the success I've
had with your training manual! My two mutts have
gone from out-of-control psychos to obedient well
behaved companions within a matter of weeks! AND
 My friends have seen the success and have asked me
to work on their dogs! I was working with a 5 month
 old Ridgeback female today and she was being an
angel after like an hour of working with her! It is
AMAZING!! I pity those fools who take their dogs to
cl***** where the "Trainers" abuse their dogs! (do they
 have a degree? A masters? a Phd? by the way? NO they
 are average joes off the street who think they know how
 to train dogs!)

Once again, Jerry, you are a genius!


NEVYN and my Dogs, Rizzo and Midget, My Grandparents dogs, Dusty and
Snoopy,
and my
friends pup, Jazz.


          ================
Never give out your password or credit card
number in an instant message conversation.


Nevyn says:
hello Jerry.


Jerry says:
HOWEDY Nevyn


Nevyn says:
How are you?


Jerry says:
sup?


Nevyn says:
Oh nothing


Nevyn says:


My dogs are alot better now!


Jerry says:
fine


Jerry says:
tell me


Nevyn says:
I can walk them on or off the leash and
 they don't give a #@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 about other dogs


Jerry says:
naah


Nevyn says:
I can let them inside and they wont eat the cats


Jerry says:
naah


Nevyn says:
Yup


Jerry says:
what did you do, buy a shock collar?


Nevyn says:
No


Nevyn says:
Praised them


Jerry says:
ahh!


Jerry says:
you think they're 100% better


Nevyn says:
'cept they still bark at the neighbour but
only coz he swears at them and pours
water on them


Nevyn says:
nahh they still have stinky breath!


Nevyn says:
muahaha


Jerry says:
ok


Jerry says:
I'll go for that


Jerry says:
it'll take a couple more days to break the
 neighbor thing if you're consistent


Jerry says:
then he won't swear and throw water at them


Nevyn says:
yeah but he's only out on the weekends


Jerry says:
but they'll still have stinky breath


Nevyn says:
muahahaha


Jerry says:
you gonna write the group and tell them
 they're suckin hind teat?


Nevyn says:
eh


Nevyn says:
nah


Nevyn says:
cant


Nevyn says:
my news server isn't workin


Nevyn says:
how about u just screenshot or copy this chat and post it


Jerry says:
why not.


Nevyn says:
sorry been tryin all day to get on the news server


Jerry says:
you got anything you'd like to tell the dog
 lovers who would prefer to see you choke
 and shock and lock your dogs in a box?


Jerry says:
I guess you don't want to tell them nuthin
that they don't already know, huh?


Nevyn says:
hah


Nevyn says:
tell them they're ****ers who need to die


Nevyn says:
dogs aren't for abusing they are for loving they love so much


Jerry says:
that's HOWE COME they got me now


Jerry says:
howe much training time did it take for the two of 'em?


Nevyn says:
pfftt


Nevyn says:
it didn't even seem like training


Nevyn says:
its been 24 days since I got your manual


Jerry says:
pfffttt!!!!


Jerry says:
hhahahahaha


Jerry says:
have you got that feeling that they're in
tune with EVERYTHING you're wanting
 them to do?


Jerry says:
I forgot what city you're in.


Jerry says:
maybe if you're near alphalpha sweeny you
 can swing by and LAUGH your ass off at
 him growling at his dogs???


Jerry says:
BWWWHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!


Nevyn says:
LOL


Nevyn says:
I'm in Perth, Australia!


Nevyn says:
and yes they do seem to be in tune


             =============


Nevyn says:
oh!! the other day my dogs went into submissive
 position when a tiny little toy poodle came up
 barking at them! !LOL


Jerry says:
EXCELLENT!


Nevyn says:
lol


Jerry says:
they knew they didn't need to fight, cause
everything was in your expert control.


Keep up the good work. j;~)


             ----------------- 


From: Nevyn (ali...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Date: 2002-03-01 03:15:50 PST


Hello


I have two mungrel females; the breeds exactly are
Blue Heeler (spots) x Kelpi (dominant genes) x
American Pitbull (behavioural) x Pug (don't laugh!).


They are gentle loving dogs when I'm at home with
 them, and they are friendly with unknown people.
They are sisters. One is obviously dominant over the
 other, and I don't have a problem with that, however;


Their behaviour is very odd. Some days they are very
 good whilst I'm walking them, some days they are not.
 They are 3 years old and have only been walking for
about 12 months because my mom didn't walk them
and now I'm home so I walk them for about an hour
and half every afternoon. I take them to the park where
 they chase birds and swim in the lake.


This is my problem :


The less-dominant dog viscously barks at every other
 dog we walk past; I have tried using a stick and giving
 her a tap when she does it, and treating her with treats
when she doesn't, using a choke chain, a muzzle and a
thing that sprays stuff in her mouth when she barks.


She won't stop! Does anyone know how I can stop her?


Also, the more-dominant dog seems to know this is
WRONG, when the other dog barks, she doesn't bark,
 but she nips at the other dog as if telling her to cut it
out, and then the barking one attacks the more-dominant
 one and they fight on the leash... it is quite disturbing to
the people walking past.


And also the more-dominant one is okay around other
dogs... SOMETIMES... sometimes she completely
ignores them, and yet other times she will attack them,
like yesterday. The less dominant one I must keep on a
leash if a person brings there dog to the park.


How do I stop them attacking other dogs? I have tried
 all the methods I have used above for 10 months every
 afternoon. Is it just a pack-behaviour thing?


It can really be quite embarrassing when your
dogs  attack some old lady's or little girl's dog.


They are good dogs, when at home or when there are
 no other dogs around. Today there were hundreds of
sparrows flying around the park and they were chasing
them and jumping up trying to catch them for more than
 90 minutes (They went straight to bed when I bought
 them home!). Can anyone help me? Email me at my
emails address, ali...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 coz this list is tooo
 crowded.


Thanks,
Nevyn


                 ================


HOWEDY Group,


Here some SUCCESS STORIES ive had
using JERRY'S MANUAL


1) My dogz, two *****es - Vicious, barking, aggressive,
pulled on leash, wanted to kill any dogs they saw, fought
between each other. TWO WEEKS using Jerry's manual,
they were calm, friends, my companions.


2) ADDED A BEAGLE PUPPY (male) to my "PACK", the
girls had -NO PROBLEMS- with him from the moment I
dropped him by their noses.


3) My FRIENDS dogs  2 MALES barking and jumping
at the fence all night 3 DAYS TRAINING WITH JERRY'S
MANUAL they were CALMED AND HAVEN'T BARKED ONCE!


Added a NEW MALE DOG (2 yrs old) AND
WELCOMED HIM WITH NO WUCKAS !


4) POODLE that ATE food from the KITCHEN BENCH -
lock him in a box? NO! USE JERRYS MANUAL! 4 DAYS
AND HES NEVER DONE IT SINCE!


5) ABUSED DOGS AT THE SHELTER I WORK AT -
HAD TO BE FED WITH A BUCKET ON  A STICK -
ONE WEEK ON JERRYS MANUAL, THE SUPERVISOR TOLD ME TO PUT THEM IN THE
PUBLIC KENNELS FOR SALE !


Quite amazing to - I thought they were just dull coloured
dogs, but after I had removed the fear and anxiety their
hairs coloured up amazingly.


6) STAFFY FEMALE who would NOT DROP HER
BALL! She carried it around all day and night - 3
DAYS on jerrys MANUAL and she now DROPS
it when u ASK her to!


BWHWHAHAHAHAAHA !!!!


Nevyn


              ---------- 


Subject: Wits End Dog Training and my Sun****ne


2From:          The Puppy Wizard
Date:           Thurs, Oct 30 2003 2:35 am


HOWEDY Professora Daniel and Sun****ne!



"Linda" <llindaleedan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message


news:3c317fe4.0310291437.41c1e7bd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sun****ne and I have been students of Wits End
> for one year this week!!!!!


See HOWE time flies when you're havin FUN?


> What a different dog he is today.


For SHORE! He's fit to do therapy work
or anything else for you.


> As some you will remember Sun****ne, a 75 pound
> mixed breed was suffering from severe fear aggression
> and none of the traditional methods helped him.


INDEEDY. HOWER dog lovers were eager to
hear all the details and were grateful for the
op****tunity to avail themselves of the same
benefits you and Sun****ne got.


> I have taught him how to help me like pick up stuff
> and close door with the clicker but the clicker was
> not working with his aggression.


Right. In fact, the clicker method and withholding
treats to elicit a behavior caused Sun****ne some
OCD behavior problems.


> When I found Jerry and Wits End on the internet I
> was at my wits end because I love this dog, he is
> the sweetest dog in the world but look vicious when
> he put on his aggression show when is was afraid.


The Puppy Wizard told you on your first post rehabilitating
Sun****nes fear aggression would be EZ, so long as you
could FORGET every thing you'd been taught by HOWE
university trained behaviorists who failed you and Sun****ne
to the tune of 5 tHOWESAND bucks and seventy HOWERS of professional
cl*****.


> I worked with the Wits End Manual and in just a
> couple of days he was coming when called every time-


Just like freakin MAGICK, hunh Professora.


> -before come for him had no meaning!


INDEEDY. That's on accHOWENT of you did
EVERY THING the EXXXPERTS taught you.


> I was able to stop his aggressive displays with
> sound and praise very quickly using Jerry's methods.


Yeah. Took you abHOWET WON WEEK to
rehabilitate Sun****ne's aggression.


> I spend winters in Florida so I had the chance to
> meet Jerry and last winter


But only after you'd solved his behavior problems.
SHORE we did a little work together, but that was
nuthin you NEEDED The Puppy Wizard in person
to handle.


> we had wonderful times talking about dogs
> and people and people and their dogs.


INDEEDY. We'll be lookin forward to visitin again
real soon.


>   He is the first and only person who understood
>  my dog and how to help him!


A dog is a dog. All behavior problems are caused
by MISHANDLING.


> Although I have really enjoyed meeting with Jerry
> and his wife Barbara, his manual is complete and
> you can use the Wits End approach just from the
> written instructions.


All The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Students get 100% TOTAL
NON PHYSICAL CONTROL NEARLY INSTANTLY
or The Puppy Wizard will get the heel HOWETA this
business.


> I have worked with  a couple of dogs in the neighborhood
> to teach them to come in just a couple of days but when I
> give them the manual to keep working with the dog they
> are just like alot of people in the group saying it is not
> possible to do what the manual says it can do.


RIGHT. Unless you got a deal with the Debil... like The
Puppy Wizard has. Here's the deal. The Puppy Wizard
SOLD HIS SHOWEL to the Debil for a PERFECT METHOD to train ALL dogs and
children and ladies,
and FORGOT who HE was dealin with, and never thought
NO WON would WANT to learn HOWE to do likeWIZE,
not even for FREE.
That's on accHOWENT of we got to quit tellin
the dog NO and avoiding and confronting and
puni****ng... that's the deal breaker.

The Debil KNEW noWON would want to give
up their alleged RIGHT to HURT and INTIMIDATE
their dogs.


So, The Puppy Wizard gotta find HISSELF
a big Bokor to cast HOWET the Debil.



> This is even when they complement my dog for his
> manners.  Oh well I will keep trying to spread the word.


NoWON wants to learn HOWE to teach their
dog to naturally want to do every thing they
ask withHOWET HURTING and INTIMIDATING
them, it takes away their awesome sense of
P-HOWER.

HOWER dog lovers HURT and INTIMIDATE dogs
to train them cause they don't have the INTELLECT
to HOWEtwit the cunning of the domestic puppy
dog... or they wouldn't NEED to HURT them in the
first place. Would they.



> Sun****ne and I had to celebrate our first year with
> Jerry and Wits End because with out Jerry he might
> not have lived to see this day!


You got a lotta good company, Professora Daniel
and Sun****ne. Too bad decent folks don't post
here abHOWETS MOORE often. All's we got
here abHOWETS lately are liars, dog abusers
and certified MENTAL CASES who call The
Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Student's like yourself
LIARS, and FORGERIES by The Puppy Wizard.

That's a other thing The Debil is responsible for.
We're dealin with PURE EVIL here abHOWETS.



> Thanks Jerry!!!!!!!


Thank you for being a dedicated FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual Student.

Your Puppy Wizard. <} ;  ~  )   >


To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING


Sun****ne is still acting like a new dog!  Saw a dog
today and "good boy-" worked along with calling him-
came the first time every time. Not even a sound out
of him.  Think it is hard for him but he never even
seemed to think about going off-reacting.  I would
love to write a testimonial but can not seem to find
the site--please send the address-- 


The word come has no affect on him just the phrase-
-Sun****ne come goodboy.


From: Linda (llindaleedan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Wits End Dog Training
Date: 2003-01-07 22:10:40 PST



"Linda" <llindaleedan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message


news:3c317fe4.0301072210.7f7ef069@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had
 on going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown
 and Dr Meister with out any help-and I found the ad
 to Doggy Do Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this
 might help my dog.


 He said solving the aggression problem was EZ
 but I could not believe him even when I downloaded
 the manual.


 The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
 I had been working for 18 months!


 Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
 from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy"  Next
 I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
 blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
 can sound and he looked at me like uhn?


 I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
 -the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
 looked at me like why are shaking that can but just
 walked on by.


                ------------- 


        "Linda" <llindaleedan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote in message
        news:


        I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
        dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
        I do not know what started the problem but he came
        aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
        snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
        and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
        ad I took him with me everywhere.


        At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
        Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
        clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
        it was not working on his aggression problem.


        I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
        trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
        They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
        and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
        suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
        working as he was becoming more aggressive.


        I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400
        miles away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and
        read a book on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer
        who tried to use a nylon chock collar but it only made
        him worse.


         I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH",
         "DOGS ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER
         END OF THE LEASH", ETC looking for help.


        We finally went to Purdue University Small Animal
        Behavior Clinic and they said he had fear aggression,
        punishment would not work, use the gentle leader and
        when out walking and he got stressed have the people
        stop until he could get in control using treats, and work
        on clicker training.


        At that point I knew more about clicker training and
        using the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was
        working--he would not come when I called him and
        would run away when I tried to catch him. I was
        afraid to walk him even in the  neighborhood as we
        had become that "mean dog and women who hasn't
        trained her dog"


        I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida
        who were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last
        two were so afraid of him they could not approach him.
       No one said I should give up on him and kill him but
       they would say "You have to realize he is dangerous
       and you are responsible for him."


        *(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got
        Sun****ne DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)


        As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
        going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown
        and Dr Meister with out any help-and I found the ad
        to Doggy Do Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this
        might help my dog.


        He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but
        I could not believe him even when I downloaded the
        manual.


        The name of the method was right I was at my
        Wits End. I had been working for 18 months!


        Using the can sound three time he came, and still
        comes from anywhere with the command-
        "comegoodboy" Next I tried the can when walking
        him--when he saw a dog three blocks away he went
        off-lunging and snapping-I used the can sound and
        he looked at me like uhn?


        I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
        -the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
        looked at me like why are shaking that can but just
        walked on by.


        When ever I try to explain about the sound people
        look at me like "you must be out of your mind"


        The results can make a believer!!!


        Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
        Manual program I walked him without the gentle
        leader in a busy shopping area with many dogs.


        He just seemed to not notice any one.


        When people talked to him or ask his name he would
        look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.


        I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
        enjoy life out in public.


        If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
        was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
        Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
        toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.


        My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
        dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved
        with out force, pain, food or anything but sound and
        praise!!!!


        I know most people would have given up on him a
        long time ago but he was and is my life. Solving the
        problem was EZ but only with the right approach-
        sound and praise.


        I know because I tried everything else and nothing
        worked!!!


                    =====================


From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: FOREVER And A DAY! - Re: dog aggression


Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives.  I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sun****ne but of course I never
would have but many people would have.


The world just does not know you can train a dog in
just a few sessions and actually solve problems.


We will be here until late April and we really have
no plans--just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida,
so any time you could meet us would be great.  I drive
so I would be happy to come to you anytime anywhere!


We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.


He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades!  I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!


Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose.  He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times  I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.


I can never thank you enough for giving Sun****ne back!!!!!


I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.


I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-


- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.


They also suggested the possibility of using drugs -prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.


                ---------------------- 


From: "lindalee" <llindaleedan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 21 Jan 2006 18:34:10 -0800


Subject: Chasing squirrels


I have not posted to the group for awhile but want to share
my success of teaching my dog Sun****ne, who has a very
high prey drive, to not go after squirrels when on a walk.


 It took a few trials but he can now walk right past
squirrels running up a tree or in a yard.


Using Jerry Howe's approach I used a sound to get his
attention when he saw a squirrel and then praised him
and kept on walking past the squirrel. Where we live in
Michigan we lots of squirrels and he was always wanting
to chase them up a tree.  Jerry's approach of sound and
praise really works.


 I think the people who discount his methods have never
tried the method because it works everytine.  Sometimes
it takes a little practice to get the sound from different
directions but I was able to change Sun****ne's behavior
in just a week after we moved back to Michigan.


Sun****ne is a very sensitive dog so any physical
corrections just won't work but using sound and
praise he is a really great dog who opens doors,
picks up things I drop, and and helps me a lot.


If you have a behavior problem with your dog get a
copy of Jerrry's manual and solve your problem!


          ------------------------- 


Took Valerie THREE DAYS to rehabilitate her dog
who'd spent two years in a shelter gettin beat
up by other dogs:


From: "Valerie M. Holmes" <Holme...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 02:07:23 GMT


Subject: Aggressive Dal from shelter


I recently adopted a female, spayed 3 1/2 yr old
dalmatian from a no-kill shelter.  She spent 2
years in the shelter and naturally she has some
socialization issues to overcome.


My problem is I am not quite sure HOW to tackle these issues. . .


1.  She is aggresive toward **ALL** other dogs, even
dogs that have shown that they are willing to be submissive.
Upon sight of a dog, she lunges and snarls.


2.  She is usually kind and affectionate toward her owner
(me), but recently began turning sour and for no apparent
reason snarls toward me!  This has completely destroyed
the trust we were building over the past month.


3.  She deals with visitors, but is very anxious around
people she doesn't know.  At first she would scream if
a stranger petted her with 2 hands.  I just don't trust
her around anyone yet.


4.  She lunged at my sisters 2 year old the same way she
lunged toward other dogs, aggressively.


I really really like this dog, when she is calm and able
to relax.  I want to keep her, but I don't really know
what the best way to establish the necessary trust.


Any ideas out there?


                    ------------------------------- 


Three days later Val writes Monday, 6/3/02:


Well, for what it's worth, I am praising without
physical contact and she does seem to listen
better than when I would praise with it.  I agree
that it is a distraction.


Anyway, no more aggressive behaviors from
her since I started the Witts End.


              ------------------- 


Then a MENTAL CASE sez:



MaryBeth" <marbe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message


news:3cfcdcfb$2_8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "MaryBeth" <marbe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote in message
> > Didja also see tt he has 'morphed' into Valerie M.
> > Holmes ?????
> Note: I am not saying there isn't a VALID Valerie
> M. Holmes, but this one lives in howdy's home.
> MB <G>


From: Seeing Spots \(Val\) (Holme...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Dear Wits End
Date: 2002-06-04 18:19:07 PST
HEY!!!

There is a Valid Valerie with a REAL Dalmatian
who is a real sweet dog with a few issues that I
am working to resolve after adopting her from a
shelter she spent 2 years in.


All I want is to get some decent help for my dog.


There is some decent stuff in Jerry's manual.
My dog has ACTUALLY been responding to
her training.  The deal is you have to separate
your opinions and impressions from the guy
who is writing these posts and take from the
manual what you want.


Personally, I get a pretty good chuckle out
of the whole Jerry thing.  I have to say the
guy is pretty clever, you're letting him get
under your skin.


It makes for a very amusing game I think.
I'm sure he would agree, or he wouldn't
be playing everyday.


He also wouldn't be playing if he didn't believe
that his method of training weren't valid.


Perhaps I'll learn from my mistakes, but so far,
using the Wits' End, I have gotten my dalmatian
to listen to me, to look to me for direction, to wait
for me to say when.


I have changed her from an aggressive dog
to one who is willing to please her owner,
willing to listen, willing to assume her role
in the pack.


The real Valerie M. Holmes speaking


P.s. Jerry, don't get any ideas about morphing
into me, ok?


                    ----- 


HOWEDY Valerie,


"Valerie M. Holmes" Holme...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote in message


news:vVAJ8.14474$LC3.1002840@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I recently adopted a female, spayed 3 1/2 yr old
> dalmatian from a no-kill shelter.


Nice goin.


> She spent 2 years in the shelter and naturally she
> has some socialization issues to overcome.


Naaah not naturally, anyHOWE. Kenneling for a long time
shouldn't have problems associated with it if the facility
was reasonable, and if they're not killin dogs they couldn't
be as cruel as our dog lovers janet boss john richardson
and mikey ball who gladly help dogs DIE.


> My problem is I am not quite sure HOW to
> tackle these issues. . .


Don't worry about it! I got all the answers and none
of the calories. All ya got to do is agree to do anything
Jerry sez and you get the aluminum funnel hat,
member****p card, secret password, secret decoder ring,
 secret fan club privilidges, secret FREE Wits' End Dog
Training Method manual, secret FREE Wits' End Dog
Training Method member's benefits, and secret Contract
 Signed In Werewoof And Elf Blood with a lifetime
GUARANTEE NEVER to have a dog behavior problem
again and your dog will ALWAYS WANT to do as you ask.

IMPOSSIBLE? It gets EVEN BETTER! Stick around...



> 1.  She is aggresive toward **ALL** other dogs,


Ooops! WE got a TOUGH problem here. I hope you're fit,
dog training is a physical skill not easily learned through
books, the written word just can't SHOW you the precise
moves necessary for commanding a dog.

Every dog is an individual, and we got to SEE the
behaviors to even GUESS what's going on with
your dog. THEN we got to formulate a training
program based on the individual dog's requirements
 for physical and emotional PRESSURE and learn
the fine art of attrition and have the expertise to hurt
 your dog PRECICELY, and ONLY WHEN NECESSARY.


But FIRST, a trip to the vet is in order. Any sudden
changes in behavior needs to be examined by the
veterinarian and he'll be able to give you a referral
 to such an expert who knows HOWE and when to
HURT your dog properly to make it friendly or
advise you when to KILL IT TO BE FAIR.


So, tomorrow morning call your vet and make an
appointment in 15 days to put your dog to sleep.


Ask him HOWE MUCH.


Hang up the phone and SPEAK TO NO ONE!!!


SAY NOTHING TILL you put that money into an
 envelope with your dog's name PRINTED on it in
UPPER CASE thingys. MAKE SURE you GO
DIRECTLY TO THE BANK, SPEAK NOTHING!,
and withdraw ONLY NEW BILLS!


If you cannot obtain NEW currency KEEP GOIN!


We need CLEAN MONEY for this SACRIFICE.


When you accept this money DO NOT TOUCH!
HAVE THE TELLER PUT THE BILLS INTO
THE ENVELOPE AND SEAL IT.


ASK HER TO PRINT YOUR DOG'S NAME
 ON THE BACK,  Ooops! DON'T! That's just
an expression. Hand the teller a note.


DON'T SPEAK!


NOT THE FRONT. THE BACK OF THE SACRIFICIAL
ENVELOPE IN UPPER CASE THINGY'S.


Now you can speak, but don't, nobody will believe you.


Trust me.


 Take the envelope to your HOWES and put it
inside your pillow case and FORGET ABOUT
 IT. Don't need that for two weeks yet.



> even dogs that have shown that they are willing
> to be submissive.


Oooops? What's that mean? I don't understand
doggietalkie. You mean she attacks other dogs,
 boys, girls, puppys, all dogs?

Good. That tells me we consistency going for us to fix it.


When does she get an op****tunity to have a dog cower?



> Upon sight of a dog, she lunges and snarls.


O.K., that's GOOD! That tells me we can probably
break the lunging in a few minutes of work. Maybe
 five, but we'll need to repeat it a few times to
generalize the idea. And we'll need to do a little
work to learn to handle her properly, maybe an
hour over several 15 minute sessions and a half
dozen 5 minute sessions. I hope your ciphering is
keepin up with us.


> 2.  She is usually kind and affectionate toward
> her owner (me),


Well, usually? I don't like usually. I like always,
consistent,100%, that's what's good. Always
 consistent. Consistent behaviors change to other,
 often seemingly un related, consistent behaviors.

Dogs like consistency too, but not repression. You'll see.



> but recently began turning sour


Ooops! That's good. That tells me the rest of the problem
is as I thought, JUST a little mishandling. I'll teach you
every thing you need to know. We're about half way
done training aready. WATCH!


> and for no apparent reason


All problem dog behaviors are a PREDICTABLE direct
 result of our ineffective and inappropriate responses to
our dog's innate normal natural instinctive reflexive
responses to cir***stances of their environment WE
create for them.

I'll teach you HOWE to train yourself to respond differently
to your dog's instinctive reflexes to you, which will cause
your dog to reflex differently to your CONDITIONED reflexive responses and
interactions towards him,
compelling him to NATURALLY WANT to do EVERY
 THING you ask, cause THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE
 BEAST.


Once YOU have learned proper handling techniques
and appropriate non physical control through conditioned
distraction and praise *(ABOUT 2 HRS WORK, maybe
less,) you'll be able to negotiate any obstacle LIKE
MAGICK, relying on scientific conditioning and desensitization techniques
and demonstrated self control
 as explained in our Contract.. err, your FREE Wits' End
Dog Training Method manual available for FREE at
http://www.doggydoright.com
. Ahem.


Unless you got that one in a BAZILLION dog that's gonna
throw Jerry the dew claw. Don't let that happen. I'll work
you through the whole process and you'll see results
tommorow. You'll have the behavior in pretty good shape
in a week, and in about ten days we should be ready to start
introducing her to a couple select dogs in about fifteen minutes of work
and
then we'll repeat that again a couple
 times and again with a couple moore dogs and then we'll
be ready to start with the first dog again for the off lead
introduction and you're DONE.


Oooops! PROBLEMO. My arithmetic sez we're gonna
need a couple moore days to work this introduction
business till the aggression is thouroghly and permenantely
extinguished. If we break our Contract, I'm err, shall we say
OUTTA HERE FOREVER?


Of course I could handle this a lot faster in person myself
cause I can control you and your dog to insure the result,
so nobody's got to do nothin noHOWE, but speak when I ask, and hush as I
speak and relish each word like candy
 you'd eat, and jump when I say, ask HOWE HIGH and
salute, and tout tributes to Jerry's manual whenever you
open your mouth...


That's all. Oh, and one other thing... I hope you don't faint
at the sight of blood. WE got to sign a contract. HOWE
MUCH do you want this dog to turn out PERFECT in
about two weeks? I'm willing to...shall we say STAKE
my ahahahahahaaaa, life on it???


BWWWWAHAHAHAAAA!!!



> and...


And NUTHIN. I REBUKE YOU IN THE
 NAME OF SATAN, DOG LOVER!!!

You'll do as I say and dance when I speak...and sing
for your breakfast and beg for your treat ...I'll stop at
at nuthin to save your dog's life, include sell the souls
of my dog and my wife, to prove there's no way to make
a dog lover right. I'll go with The Devil to save our dog's
lives, I'll fight tooth and nail with guns and with knives,
I'm droppin the hammer on dog trainer's careers,
and takin their eye teeth along with their rears. They
been jerkin and chokin the life outta dogs and now I
got them all by their balls in my jaws...


Now go ahead and pinch my ears..., or just make me laugh.


I just told you we figured out your dog's problem.



> snarls toward me!


Big deal. She won't do that noMOORE once you learn
to handle her like any of my students.


> This has completely destroyed the trust


What trust? The trust established with
your choke collar and corrections?

Don't worry about a thing.


WE got a CONTRACT. Remember?



> we were building over the past month.


BWWWWAJJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAAAAA!!!
Got me laughin in Spanish and I don't even speak
Spanish.


> 3.  She deals with visitors,


Deals? Sounds tentative. She's just a little shy. Don't
worry about it. I'm the only game in town. I got the
 deal  and Jerry don't make no deals... Well not no
moore, since I'm tem****arily outta... mmm, currency.

Jerry don't compromise with dog lovers who prefer to
hurt and kill dogs than spend a couple hours trying to show
the dog HOWE to live instead of forcing IT to choose the
degree of pain it prefers to tolerate in between spurts of life,
anxiety, and repression.



> but is very anxious around people she doesn't know.


Shy. The anxiety is a result of punishment for being
aggressive cause she's shy, or maybe just from back
when a puppy jumpin up onto a guest and gettin
kneed in the chest or toes stepped on or alphaphalpha
 rolled and growled into their throat pr just SCRUFF
SHAKE and screamed NO for 5 seconds or chin
CHUKED and bit on the ears till they piss themselves
 or jerked and choked on a pronged spiked pinch choke
 collar or burned with a medical grade static like
 stimulation device or containment system like our dog
 lovers at k9 web and cindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooron recommend TO ENHANCE THE BOND between
 'trainer' and dog.

Our traditional training methods are what's making
 your dog turn on you for hurting and scaring her
during her meetings with other dogs. Our pal lying
"I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn and janet boss recommend
pronged spiked pinch choke and shock and citronella
collars for training this kind of dog... and they'd rather
 not put IT through all that when there's SO MANY dogs
that are deserving of their HELP. And then they'll deny it,
despite it's archived FOREVER.


You see where WE're goin with all this? WATCH.



> At first she would scream if a stranger
> petted her with 2 hands.


I'd probably come real close to dropping the hammer on
 them myself. My dogs will bite you if a stranger meeting
 us put their hands on us in a restraining manner. We don't
like that. Trust me. Strangers touching us means we got to
 run and find an adult or a policeman.

 RIGHT? Either that or...



> I just don't trust her around anyone yet.


Me too. I never trust a dog. I only trust my training methods
and then we don't got to worry about what the heel the dog
cares... who the heel's the goddamned trainer, you or the
dog?

THE DOG!


You got to TRAIN YOURSELF to reflex to his needs
properly and then he'll reflex to his natural instinct and
be able to use his dog skills as part of your family pack,
equally with you and the other family members.


Every thing you've been taught about handling your dog
is DEAD WRONG and your dog is prima facia evidence
in Jerry's Giiihhhaaad against the dog behavior industry
for bringing us every dog behavior problem we've got.



> 4.  She lunged at my sisters 2 year old


$#!T! You're gonna try and make this hard for me aren't ya,
pullin the fear/guilt double high card trump tryin to make Old  Jerry roll
over and piss himself with the 2 yo kid
card???

NOTHIN DOIN! Get the heel outta here!


IN THE NAME OF SATAN I
REBUKE YOU, DOG LOVERS!!!



> the same way she lunged toward other dogs, aggressively.


Duh-Oh! Spooooookey!!!

BWWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!



> I really really like this dog,


THAT'S GREAT! I do too. I like all dogs on general
principle and individual dogs on merit and don't like
 nobody no moore than me...and mine. You got your
copy of The Contract?

Don't worry about nuthin. Me an mine are comin
 through this alive... sort of, in a sense.



> when she is calm and able to relax.


Vs what? I would like to know when she's not calm
 and able to relax... tell us what she's doin. THOSE
are the anxiety relief mechanisms WE need to deal
with so I can fulfill OUR Contract and... finish you
off, and that little dog too!


> I want to keep her,


LIKEWISE. WE got a long term Contract. Haven't we?


> but I don't really know what the best way to establish
> the necessary trust.


Yeah, as a matter of fact we got EXPERTS here. Let me
INTRODUCE you around?


> Any ideas out there?


Yeah. Our dog lovers were just on their way to another
forum. Weren't you, dog lovers? We'll introduce our new
 found friends later. Right now our OP's got some studying
 to do before she has an accident cause she won't know
HOWE to handle her lead to stop triggering her dog to
pull if she's wastin time with dog abusers who jerk and
choke dogs. That's moore then half of what gets IT angry.

Now if this sounds too unbelievable I'll just up the ante.


I'll PAY YOU $10.00 / hr to study with me, IF YOU FAIL.
Call or write for details and agreement: 1 888 WITSEND. Jerry. j;~)


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