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Re: work, work, work

by <DelusionalDimensionsRecoveryDDR@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 24, 2008 at 08:03 PM

"Janet Boss" <janet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:janet-BB4C37.18100924052008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Some dogs have a very tough life.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/96658169@[EMAIL
PROTECTED]
 THEN IT GETS WORSE.

                          LIKE THIS:

http://tinyurl.com/5m6ppt
    "Loop the lead (it's basically a GIANT nylon or leather
    choke collar) over his snarly little head, and give him a
    stern correction" --Janet Boss
http://s181.photobucket.com/albums/x272/TheIncrediblySimplyAmazingPup...

"J1Boss" <j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:20040324071828.07753.00000001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 He was next to me and I could see his neck
 muscles pulsing.  He didn't even blink an eye.
 Janet Boss

"sionnach" <rhyfe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:c3qi15$2biuoh$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "J1Boss" <j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:20040323173916.10096.00001938@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  I can't imagine needing anything higher
> >  than a 5 with it, even with an insensitive
> > dog like a Lab.

An INSENSITIVE DOG???

> > I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but
> > I had a pointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.

Do you think the citronella collar is CRUEL
cause the SMELL LINGERS after the dog's
 been sprayed in the face and the dog won't
know HOWE COME IT was MACED?

janet CONtinues:
> > My dogs are not human children wearing fur- they are DOGS.
> > I don't have anything against electronic bark collars, but they
> > should be used in conjunction with actually working at training
> > your dog(s).

They're DUMB ANIMALS these MENTALLY ILL LYING
DOG ABUSERS HURT INTIMIDATE and MURDER.

                        -------------------

                        LIKE THIS:

   "J1Boss" <j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
    On 6 Feb 2006 17:41:08 GMT, Mary Healey
    <mhhea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
    clicked their heels and said:

    > Does that include tone of voice?  Some tools are easier
    > to ban than others.

    yes - screaming banshees are told to shut up!  And I
    always have to remind spouses that they may NOT do the
    "honey - you're supposed to be doing it like THIS"......
    --
    Janet B
    www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

From: sionnach (rhyfe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Correct use of prong collar
Date: 2001-05-05 13:03:14 PST

> And Sally responded:

> > Who said that?  I would never do or recommend
> > that, and neither would most of the regulars
> > on here.
> >Sally Hennessey

> I've posted my entire quote, since Patch failed
> to do so. Take it out of context and you'd think
> I was flinging puppies across the room!

> here's what I said (keep in mind that we're
> talking about a 12 week old ~25# FCR puppy):

>  A small scruff shake is appropriate if he's very persistant.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  Um, may I suggest a re-wording that might make
  it  clearer- given that "scruff shake" is too easily
  misinterpreted as "pick the puppy up by the scruff
  of the neck and shake the puppy in the air"?

  I think I'd phrase it something like "if the puppy
  is very persistant, it  can be appropriate to take
  hold of the loose skin at the back of the neck and
  give a slight shake to the *skin*".

  Janet's not talking about actually shaking
  the puppy, which I think we ALL agree is
  abusive."

                    ----------------------

 "After Numerous Training Cl*****, Behavioral
 Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
 Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
 Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness," mustang sally.

"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.
I volunteered as assistant to the euthanasia
tech at our local shelter for a while, and
I know a bit about overpopulation and unwanted
animals.

This however has nothing at all to do with
responsible breeders, because responsible
breeders don't contribute to that problem,"
Mustang Sally.

Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001
Subject: Re: shock collars

Sally Hennessey <greyho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:b8m1dtsv6vuiblo63h8ekqiforibadrff2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 from being incredibly offensive and self-
righteous, this post shows and absence of knowledge
in the differences in dogs' temperaments, or perhaps
a lack of ability to perceive same.

 The fact that you, Alison, have never met a dog to
whom corrections and discomfort, even pain, were
unim****tant does not mean that such dogs do not exist.

What it means is that you don't know as much about
dogs as you think you do, and you surely don't know
a damn thing about Harlan or anyone else's dog here.

I had a Dalmatian that would instigate fights with
one of her housemates; that dog had no fear or
anything, and pain incurred during a fight meant
nothing to her.

I know that that dog is not unique, and I'm sure many
people here can tell similar stories.  The fact that
you, Alison, continue to say things to people such as
what you said to Theresa about causing her dog to
suffer (at least I guess that's what you meant by
"you cause your dog suffers" - - must be the King's
English you guys talk about over there) means that
you are an ignorant, arrogant, insensitive person
who is not worth further notice.
         Sally Hennessey

"Sally Hennessey" <greyho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:54nuetsqgkhp26qqv128jnumgmb2m27opr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Nope.  No more than you'd convince Patch that
 prongs and e-collars, in the right hands, are not
 intrinsically abusive; or that dogs trained properly
 with prongs or e-collars are not fearful, in pain, or
 intimidated; or that any one of us here knows our
 own dogs and their reactions better than someone
 who has never seen them or us...hmmm.

 I'm starting to see some similarities here.

 Sally Hennessey

                                  ---------------

Here's janet's PARTNER:

"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context,"

sinofa***** writes:

> > What I have said- repeatedly - is that he
> > took posts from two different people,

No, there was ONLY WON quote.

> > took pieces of them out of context,

Of curse. QUOTED. You wanna see it in context?

> > cobbled them together,

No. There was WON DIRECT QUOTE.

> > then added his own words:

"Neatly," and "Smartly."

> > and a fake signature.

"sinofa*****" instead of sionnach.

> > Which is exactly what he did.

INDEEDY. That's HOWE COME you deny it.

> > The actual quote is misleading

That so?

> > when taken out of context,

We'd been talkin abHOWET beatin the dog with a shoe...

> > and Jerry's faked "quote"

The WON sinofa***** totally DENIES.

> > is downright meaningless.

Only if you're a MENTAL CASE.

 Here's Jerry's version

 "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My
 Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
 Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My
 Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
 Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into
 Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And
 Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sinofa*****.

  Here's yours:

 "I dropped the leash, threw my
 right arm over the Lab's shoulder,
 grabbed her opposite foot with my
 left hand, rolled her on her side,
 leaned on her, said "GRRRR!" and
 nipped her ear.
 --Sara Sionnach

                  --------------------

"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"

                               See?

Here's janet's "more positive experience"
 with a REAL LIFE IN PERSTON "student":

Subject: Muttley: Now a question of Life or Death
"Paul E. Schoen" <pst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote

It is a shame that Muttley will probably be put
down (his appointment is next Wednesday),

Subject: Muttley: Now a question of Life or Death

"Paul E. Schoen" <pst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote

Hello everyone:

If you have followed some of my posts, you know
something about the ongoing story of Muttley, the
large GSD/Chow dog I have been trying to adopt
or place in a better home.

I will add a bit more history later in this post.

Last Tuesday, toward the end of Janet's obedience
class, Muttley and I had just finished fairly successfully
performing a sit/stay/come routine, and then he was
sitting by my side.

The final routine was to be a "down", which Muttley
 has had some difficulty with, and frankly I have not
 had the time to work with him much on that.

I was kneeling at his side, trying to hold his collar
while pu****ng his front legs down to the position,
while he resisted. Suddenly he lunged, knocking
me over onto the parking lot, and I lost grip of the
leash as I reflexively broke my fall.

Muttley took the op****tunity to attack a young black
 male Lab to my left, and it was a very brutal attack.
Janet and the instructors tried to gain control, and as
soon as I could get to my feet I grabbed the leash and
pulled him off.

That was  the end of the class, and the other dog,
Bernie, was taken to an animal hospital for treatment.

 When everyone had left, Janet counseled me about
 what should be done about Muttley.

She said this was more than ordinary aggression,
and only intensive (and expensive) one on one
training would have any chance at working, and
in any case, he was not suited to group training.

She advised me that Muttley could be dangerous,
and she recommended that he be euthanized.

"They can't all be saved".

<snip>

                               --------------

                 BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

Subject:       Muttley: Now a question of Life or Death
"Paul E. Schoen" <pst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote

<snip>

If I did not have to worry about my cat, I would
probably keep him, and I am certain I could avoid
any more dangerous episodes. I probably would
not have taken him to obedience cl***** at this time
if that was not such a difficult issue, and if people
here had not essentially shamed me into doing so.

Then he would only be a bratty dog with a mind of
his own, but he would not have been identified as
dangerous.

               --------------------------

               BWEEEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA~!~!~!

Here's HOWER DOG LOVER PAL an janet's
REAL LIFE IN PERSON "student" paul:

#2 - 6/05/07

>> When I was training him under Janet's supervision
>> I was instructed to give it a ? firm yank as a correction.

> I advised you to use a prong collar, not give firm
> yanks on a chain choke collar. I hate the things.

>> She was able to get his attention with
>> just a quick tug, but I had to yank on it
>> hard enough to lift him off his feet to get
>> him to respond. Looking back now, I think
>> it was based on his fear, which he had for
>>  her (as an unknown), but not for me
>> (whom he had learned to trust).

> He wasn't afraid of me. He knew I was a
> confident trainer. Fear has no place in dog
> training, as I told you THEN.

> Janet

It seems to me that applying stern corrections, by
popping a choker chain, prong collar, or whatever,
is a way to ensure compliance by instilling a fear
of further punishment.

Sure, if it is administered very consistently
 by a confident trainer, the dog soon learns
 to obey. There was no positive reinforcement,
 so what remains is negative.

Also, I recall the time you were going to show me
 how I could get Muttley to take his rawhide treat
from me without lunging for it. When you offered

 it to him, he refused to take it. This IMHO is likely
 a fear behavior.

Things have changed a lot since then, and I have
learned a lot, and Muttley has settled down quite
 a bit. I probably still give him too much freedom
to think on his own, but that's just my way of
doing things, and that's probably not going to
change much. He may never win an obedience
medal, but I don't think he is dangerously out
of control, either.

Paul and Muttley

"I thought I was told that the way to get the dog to go
down was to make him sit and then step on the leash.
That was awkward and didn't seem to work.

I will confess that I only tried the "down" position
 once or twice at home, and I also often used it
 instead of "Off" when I wanted him to stop
jumping on me or elsewhere I didn't want him to be.

I had to give him corrections every few seconds,
and also just about kick him, to keep him at my
left side.

Muttley is really a very sweet and loving dog, but
 he needs more socialization with other dogs. However,
it is very likely that I will have him put down in a week."

Subject: Muttley: Now a question of Life or Death
"Paul E. Schoen" <pst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote

It is a shame that Muttley will probably be put
down (his appointment is next Wednesday),

                    -----------------------

                 HERE'S HOWE COME:

Subject: Re: redirected aggression
Date: 4/11/07

"Janet Boss" <janet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:janet-730AB8.17321511042007@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 seems I have been dealing with this a bit lately.
Dog to dog and dog to person,, with dogs who are
obviously overstimulated by what's in front of them.

What's in front of them varies from people at the door
to dogs in their path or directly in their face.  The dogs
in question all have very poor self control.

 I have dog(s) with not-so-great-natural self control,
 so it's something we constantly work on.  We don't
 have redirected stuff going on, because we have enough
obedience to avoid it.

While I know that's the big answer for the dogs in
 question as well, I'm curious what things people have
 found useful to redirect/focus/gain attention from
drivey dogs or just very distracted of over-the-top dogs.

We're having success with my recommendations, but I'm
always open to something novel that may be the hot ticket.
--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

                    -------------------------

             BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

From: Janet B <ja...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 15:23:53 -0400

Subject: urinary leaking

Rudy has a vet appointment tomorrow afternoon,
but I thought I'd throw this out here anyway.

Rudy has excitement urination sometimes - if I spend too long before
coming into the house, he may flood his crate.  This is generally only
if I've been gone over 4 hours.  He does not have water in his crate.

Rudy sleeps through the night (10-6 or 7) and never has an issue with
leaking then.  He is housebroken and waits until I let him out.

A few times over the last month, after I've been gone a bit over 5
hours, I've come home, let him out where he pees up a storm, then he
is fed, out again, maybe multiple times (for play, etc) and eliminates
normally.  Then he naps.  When he's sleeping, he leaks.

Baseball-Softball sized puddle generally.  Yesterday, I as home with
him all day, gone for <2 hours in the early evening, and late in the
evening, right before bed, he leaked again while sleeping.

This doesn't strike me as an infection or even a sphincter issue, but
it has me puzzled.  He has no idea he's doing it and it doesn't wake
him.

Any thoughts?
--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

From: Janet Boss <ja...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:39:43 -0400

Subject: Re: the one-dog two-dog dilemma
In article <fb464s$uc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,

 Shelly <she...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> hat was a sing that I should be committed.

> I have a feeling that, as crazy as multiple retrievers might be, it
> pales in comparison to multiple Boxers.  It's not a theory I'd
> personally care to test, though.

Me neither!  Yes, we don't have the sock thing with Rudy
 thank goodness.   He keeps me just as worried with lumps
(cells from one are out for biopsy now), has been a poop
eater (past tense) and has his urinary issue.

Their "joie de vivre" is pretty similar though!

They're actually very good at being rugs
when in the house and it's just me/us.
--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

                  LIKE THIS:

                  Here's *janet* "TRAININ" her own dog
                  not to EAT **** and swallHOWE socks:

From: J1Boss (j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: housebreaking in a multi level home
Date: 2002-06-27 03:30:11 PST

 > From: Rocky
 > Nessa wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
 >> why does Franklin have to be on a leash?
 >
 > I think that Franklin's been naughty.
 >
 >--
 >--Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

and apparently pretty sneaky too -
can't figure this one out still!

FYI - He ingested a mystery sock.
Hadn't done that in well over a year.

When he was a puppy we were very lucky -
they went through or came up. We've done
"sock work" with him leaving them alone,
but mostly are pretty conscientious about
not making them available.

The risk is obviously too high.  One of his
littermates beat him to the punch with the

same surgery, and his great grandfather had
this habit until he died at age 12.

My MIL was visiting (sockless!) and since he
wasn't with me every waking moment as usual
as a result, I can only imagine that the sock
presented itself somehow while she was with him.

He was a very, very sick dog.  He had emergency
surgery on Monday, but was home by Tuesday - we
lucked out that the sock had advanced enough that
they didn't need to cut the bowel.

Once he was opened, they were able to manipulate
the sock out his rectum.  He thinks he's fine, so
the leash is very necessary! He's got about a foot
of staples on his tummy, and this was a very
expensive sock!

Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

                 --------------------------------

           BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAA~!~!~!

FRANKLIN and JANET, ACT II

From: J1Boss (j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: What can I do if I can't afford a behaviorist?

Date: 2002-06-27 05:20:30 PST

 > From: diddy d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > Some dogs are really adept at getting
 > out of things, even the impossible.

Yes indeed.  I crated Franklin when I had to
leave yesterday. He's post surgical and needs
to be confined and rest/kept safe.

 He is used to crates, has not problem with
them and does not "escape" (mesh crates, wire
crates, etc - he takes them all in stride,
whether strange places or at home).

When I got home, both dogs greeted me at the
door.  He had managed to bend the clips on the
end panel of his metal crate (General Cage 204)
and squeeze out the top/side of the end panel
that has the door.  The door was securely closed.

THAT was NOT a good thing to do with a foot of
staples in your tummy. He hadn't done it before -
but he's not his usual self obviously.

We won't be trying that again any time soon!

Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

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                        LIKE THIS:

Here's a other of janet's REAL LIFE IN PERSON
"students" sinofa***** HEELPED "train":

 Subject: First Class was tonite

 1 From:  Nessa
 Date:  Tues, Jun 11 2002 8:32 pm
 Email:   Nessa <use...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

 Tonite I started Janet's obedience class.  It's
 like NIGHT and DAY from the class Bagel 'flunked'.
 I was amazed at the difference and I am very glad
 Janet gave me the chance to attend her class.

 I can't wait till PK on Saturday.

 Nessa

                ------------------

Subject:  Training...

 1 From:  Nessa
Date:  Wed, Jun 12 2002 9:45 pm
Email:   Nessa <use...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

well both my kids are asleep one on my left and
one on my right. Bagel has taken to running away
every chance he gets now so I have to be ever vigilant.

I have tried every type of collar around.  Flat Buckle,
nylon lobster claw slip collar, harness, gentle leader.

 Yesterday I watched him on a prong collar.

 I SWORE I would NEVER use a prong collar.
He willingly sits to have it put on (as opposed
to fighting me when I put on the gentle leader).

He is no longer pulling on the leash when we walk.

Currently he is doing his 30 minute quiet period
next to my chair with it on since he is leashed and
 he is out like a light.  So is Hannah.

I tried to find them a place to play off leash tonight
since Bagel has become a happy wanderer and I
 couldn't find a safe place so they didn't get as much
play as any of us would like.

I am doing my training with Janet and I am so happy.
Bagel did his sit downs tonight without much fuss and
Hannah watched from the crate.  Then we let Hannah
do about 5 minutes of sit and down.

She's getting good at them.

I have been rewarding with treats and tonite I didn't
and they still did what I told them to do.   with Bagel
on my left with his head facing front and Hannah on
 my right with her head facing back I feel like I have
the most beautiful bookends in the world.

Life with a dog..... PRICELESS

Nessa
--
I don't have issues
I have subscriptions
www.nessa.info

                 ---------------

 From:  Nessa
 Date:  Thurs, Jul 4 2002 8:22 am
 Email:   Nessa <use...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

 On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 0:08:02 -0400, Jenn wrote
 (in message <CSPU8.117216$Lf2.8604...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):

> That aside, I crate trained both my dogs
> successfully, and used the crate to house
> train them.

 Bagel is so well crate trained that in the mornings when
 I make his Kong, he runs to the crate and since I am not
 crating him anymore (just confining him) but I am crating
 Hannah, I have to pull him out of the crate and he does not
 want to get out.

 BTW housebreaking with Janet is going quite well.

 Nessa

                   ----------------

 Subject:  I went away for the weekend... big mistake

 1 From:  Nessa -
 Date:  Sun, Jul 21 2002 9:58 pm
 Email:   Nessa <use...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

 I went away for the weekend and I think my
 dog walker will never speak to me again.

 Bagel escaped from the kitchen and ate about 10
 pounds of puppy food and proceeded to deposit it
 all over my house.

 He esp. liked my living room sofa which was my
 mothers as he pulled some cu****ons off of it and
 literally stood on it and peed.

 Yes I know my dog has issues and I know I need help.

 I think my poor dog walker needs therapy now.

 It was a rough dog weekend for her and not
 just with my kids.

 I didn't know until the last minute I was going
 away and NEXT time, the furbabies will go to
 furbaby camp for the weekend.

 It was too much for them.

 Well live and learn.

 Meanwhile, I'm still glad I went on retreat.

 My house will survive as things are not im****tant.

 Hannah still loves me and Bagel will talk
 to me in a few days.....

 Nessa

              ------------

 From: Nessa (use...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
 Subject: Re: Where we stand/sit/down/leave it Now

 Date: 2003-09-17 14:14:51 PST
 On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:16:04 -0400,
 Charlie Wilkes wrote (in message
 <6dchmvc41uetv229f7249jh60k6881i...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):

> Yes, it's a huge improvement over shoving them
> in crates at night. But why does Bagel have to
> be leashed?

 because he will wander the area (room if i close
 the door or house if i don't) and pee and bark all
 night long. but i said that already you must not
 be reading for comprehension.
 --
 Nessa

          =========

 Subject:   Night time barking.. Help needed
 1 From:  Nessa
 Date:  Wed, Sep 18 2002 5:50 am
 Email:   Nessa <use...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

 Morning all,

 Bagel and Hannah are doing well except for
 night time barking in the house for play time.

 Problem is it that when I am trying to sleep esp.
 between 1 and 5. I CAN'T just let them bark it
 out (because if I could it's no biggie and I can
 sleep through it).

 My problem is that my next door neighbors (I live in
 a townhouse) don't appreciate it (and I can't blame them).

 If they are very tired after a day at the park they tend
 to sleep better but I can't get them to the park now
 everyday because it gets dark earlier.  I try to let them
 run around a bit in the neighborhood with other dogs
 but it's not enough.

 oh that is when the owners and I are standing there.
 we try to let them all play under supervision.

 I can live with the banging (as Bagel slams Hannah
 into the wall or Hannah throws one of her bones down
 the uncarpeted steps and they waterfall down the steps
 (there is no other way to describe dogs running down
 wooden steps)

 I know a tired dog is a good dog.   I just don't know
 what to do to hold off the barking.  I know they are
 playing and all I can think of is the line from the kids
 book Go Dog Go (one of my favorites) is:

 Now it is night
 Sleep dogs sleep

 (btw the drawing is of all these dogs sleeping in a big bed
 on the pillows like humans with their party hats on)

 I'm at the point where I am considering a soft muzzle to
 prevent parking.   Someone has offered the use of the
 shock collar to teach no bark but I don't want to do that.

 I'm too sleep deprived to do anything much.

 HELP!!

 Nessa
 --
 I don't have issues
 I have subscriptions
 www.nessa.info

 2 From:  J1Boss
 Date:  Wed, Sep 18 2002 7:48 am
 Email:   j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (J1Boss)

 Nessa wrote:
> Problem is it that when I am trying to sleep esp.
> between 1 and 5.  I CAN'T just let them bark it
> out (because if I could it's no biggie
> and I can sleep through it).

 What the (*&(*)(* are they doing awake between 1 and 5?

> I can live with the banging (as Bagel slams Hannah
> into the wall or Hannah throws one of her bones down
> the uncarpeted steps and they waterfall down the steps
> (there is no other way to describe dogs running down
> wooden steps)

 Baby gate.  Door.

 Do NOT let them wander the house getting
 more charged up.

> I'm too sleep deprived to do anything much.
> HELP!!

 Nessa - I would seriously consider why these dogs
 are up at 1-5 and even thinking they CAN be!  They
 need to be confined to your room, told firmly to knock
 it off, and have that backed up with some sort of
 correction if they don't.

 If all else fails, tether then away from each other, but
 honestly, if they aren't responsive to you telling them
 to cut it out, we're back to the "bigger issues" problem.

 Janet Boss
 Best Friends Dog Obedience
 "Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
 Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
 www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

    Maybe she can't scream at her dogs at night?

nessa CONtinues:
>  A few weeks ago it started at 5:30 am and it has become
>  increasingly earlier  until this morning he started at 4:00.
> Ignoring him has proven to be  futile, as has calming him
> down and rewarding him with a treat and, as  a last resort,
> spraying him with water from a plant sprayer.
>
> This morning I even put him in his crate and took him into
> the bathroom with me as I prepared for work (normally he
> stays in a x-pen in the kitchen) but he only calmed down
> for a few minutes before the whining began again.

 A 1 year old should be hanging out with you.  Overnight,
 around the house, and heck, even neat the bathroom while
 you get ready for work..
--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Subject:   Puppy license expires
1 From:  Nessa
Date:  Fri, Jul 26 2002 5:57 am
Email:   Nessa <use...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

Yep,  she is pretty much housebroken so I let her
out of the crate at night to sleep with me.   But last
night, while I was asleep she ATE MY GL*****.

It's my fault, I left them on the night table (where I
 always leave them) so I could see when I got up.

I needed a new pair but I wanted to be able to get
them without having to miss work.  Now, poof here
 I am gl*****less.  thank goodness we have 1 hour
glass makers pretty close by.

Well she's crated now until this chewing phase is over.

 Hannah will be 5 months old next week.   Any advice
on how to deal with this other than the standard, no bite,
here chew this, crating, etc.

Nessa
--
I don't have issues
I have subscriptions
www.nessa.info

nessa's dogs got her EVICTED to boot <{}: ~ ( >

From: Nessa (ladybug0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Sad News.. I need someone to take my dogs
Date: 2003-08-26 09:55:03 PST

well I'm not BLAMING my job it's ONE of MANY
things that I'm considering.

As for returning them to their respective shelters,
I don't want to split them up and I'm not going to
give them to just anyone.  Possibly because I am
doing everything I can to keep them and drag this
mess out as long as possible in hopes that it will
work out.

                        =============

                BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

     THAT'S quite a SUCCESS STORY, ain't it, janet??

               BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
 




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